ASRA Elections

rotor · 25-06-2007, 07:30 PM

Hi,

In the past I've tried to stay out of ASRA politics but I feel that this is a very important subject.

There seems to have been a little controversy following the last ASRA elections regarding the appointment of President.

How do you feel about the way the board elects a President.

Should the members have a say in who they want for President, or should the board elect a President regardless of members desires.

Should there be a separate nomination for the position of President over and above the nominations for Board Members.

What's your feelings on this!!

rotor

russ · 25-06-2007, 07:56 PM

Yes.........there should be a short list of nominees for president, and we as members make our choice. 2nd most votes gets to be vice pres.

Removing "our" ability to select "our" leader is arrogance in the extreme.

I'm done.............

bones · 25-06-2007, 08:07 PM

It could be as simple as a separate form for the position of President sent at the same time as the form for board members nomiations come out,obviously not every one is going to wish to seek to be the President, by the time the election comes around the persons are easily identified, and can be put onto the separate form as well as the board member form..

But then that is sort of the same thing as before, and look how good it worked, how ever if it was a separate election all together, it must be obeyed legally?

Birdy2 · 25-06-2007, 09:25 PM

Removing "our" ability to select "our" leader is arrogance in the extreme.
If your concern was as genuine as the size of your mouth Russ, youd make a little effort to get to meetings, like everyone else dose.
There was a meeting at this years nats[ yes russ, the nats you never go to] and a special effort was made for this very subject to be sorted out, WHILE ALOTA PEOPLE HAD THE CHANCE TO VOISE THEIR CONCERNS, and from wot i understand, coz i was there, it was sorted out.
And from the silence after the 'any questions' was asked made it clear that everyone reconed the solution was accepted.

So russ, if your as concerned as you bullsh1t to be, then get to meetings instead of hideing behind your computer you gutless &^%#.

Brian · 25-06-2007, 10:02 PM

There was a meeting at the Nationals on the Sunday afternoon and we heard a brief prepared by a legal eagle in which he said that the constitution said that the voting for a president or secretary etc was the boards job and thats the way it is with all the boards I have known.

So, if anyone doesnt like it its bad luck and if you wish to have a vote for president etc, then run for the board and you too can have your vote.

What was more interesting than the vote for pres was what the legal man said about constitutions and the way they run, particularly ASRA . I'm not a learned lawyer but it could be that the way the secretary was made a full board member could well be a little dodgy to say the least. [I have nothing against Graeme or the fact he put his hand up to do the secs job] but the way I see it is that Graeme should have been elected as a temp sec [until fresh elections] and he should or could not be made a full board member ..

The thing is, I havent a beef about the way the current pres was elected but I do question why the pres needed to do a explanation in the Gyro news and seemly justify why it was so !Could it be that the pres wasnt comfortable given the circumstances that took place just before the election??

It was also interesting that no one has said anything about the pres threat of the possibility of legal action .

rotor · 25-06-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

It was also interesting that no one has said anything about the pres threat of the possibility of legal action .

Brian sorry for my ignorance on a lot that's gone on but can you explain what you mean by the "pres threat of legal action"

rotor

Brian · 25-06-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rotor

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Originally Posted by Brian

It was also interesting that no one has said anything about the pres threat of the possibility of legal action .

Brian sorry for my ignorance on a lot that's gone on but can you explain what you mean by the "pres threat of legal action"

rotor

Page 14 gyro news autumn edition ,first paragraph. I better re phrase that to quote " or you may find someone seeking legal advice" I took that to mean what I wrote above.

russ · 25-06-2007, 10:49 PM

Wish i could get to each and every "Nats", d*ckhead,

But Darwin is up the top of this island, and bleedin Nats are thousands of k's away, Last 2 yrs no gyro at Nats time, be buggered if i'm driving 3..4 days to get there, sit on me arse and watch others flying about, then another 3...4 days getting back here, on top of that i got a business to run, and getting away is another problem coz of that.
Some others can orgynise themselves to do the big treks, just to see gyros flyin about, me.......i don't get no fun out of effectively being on the road for 6...8 days to see em flyin for 2 days thereabouts.
The furtherest north they have ever got was Alice, about 3..4 yrs ago, that was effectively 4 days on the road, 2 there, 2 back, yea got there alright, so getem closer more often, or make em more central more often.
Last year was way down south, now next year is down there to.........makes it bleedin hard with commitments some folks have. Hope you can get your head around that, but i won't hold me breath.

Ok, so you can get the time off to travel to em, wish i could.

Late 2005 i towed the trainer to Qld......twice, to train up 5...6 guys, 3 weeks or more away, made a quid.........yea, sure did, pigs arse........ cost me quids, but gettin em flying safely was a better return.
you.............you just shoot off at the mouth with insults to some folks here. Your head is gettin too big for them shoulders. Then again, it goes with your big ego.

You are real quick to shoot off abuse at others, but when it get's returned you got real thin skin.
Was a couple of members that encountered your attacks on the asra site, they moved to here, then you arrived, and the attacks kept going at them here. Both those guys have now departed here.......onya dave

I was prepared to bet me left nut, that last year when this asra saga was raging, you was coming back with.......it's a witch hunt, get the facts, your spies are wrong etc etc etc. So back checking i have gone, seeking those posts, found zip, so it looks like i owe you an opology, and ive lost me left nut. i can live with that.

russ · 25-06-2007, 11:01 PM

Just read your post here Brian............members are unaware [ well most of em ] of the "legal" actions taking place at the moment between "asra" parties / members.

Somebody, may open the whole saga up, will make a bloody good read, great twists and turns. Retrieve the threads from last year, then read Tims letter in the latest mag...........well, bugger me........shyte

Birdy2 · 29-06-2007, 01:49 PM

You are real quick to shoot off abuse at others, but when it get's returned you got real thin skin.
Was a couple of members that encountered your attacks on the asra site, they moved to here, then you arrived, and the attacks kept going at them here. Both those guys have now departed here.......onya dave
Geez russ, you recon i got thin skin.

Well, them other blokes [ yeh, the ones you wont name coz there aint any] musta had real thin skin, if a pissant like me can upset um.

you.............you just shoot off at the mouth with insults to some folks here.
Care to mention any names?, privatly if you like.

so it looks like i owe you an opology
You owe me nuthn russ. [ you got nuthn i could possably want.]