gbw
26-11-2009, 10:47 PM
Hi folks,
I have long known that global warming is not happening.
But please listen to Allen Jones interview about the Copenhagen Treaty. Its unbelievable. Dead scary.
Graham
This is quite amazing!.
The link for the interview is as follows:
http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lindsay, Peter (MP) <Peter.Lindsay.MP@aph.gov.au>
Date: 2009/11/24
Subject: RE: Radio interview with Alan Jones - please listen
To: Neville Bennett <maggie.lpo@gmail.com>
Nev
Thanks for your email.
In relation to the Copenhagen Treaty :
The Coalition has always recognised the need for active international co-operation on climate change issues because it is the only way to generate meaningful action. However the Rudd Labor Government must take the Australian people into its trust when it comes to these international negotiations.
Mr Rudd must fully inform the Australian people and the Parliament about any agreement he intends to sign up to on behalf of Australia and he must explain the financial and legal implications of this proposed treaty.
The Coalition, for its part, will scrutinise any agreements through the Parliamentary and committee processes. The existing treaty draft for the Copenhagen is expansive and complex. This simply underscores the point that Mr Rudd must be honest and up front with the Australian people about what he knows and what he wants Australia to contribute at Copenhagen.
The Coalition has offered bipartisan support for the range of CO2 reduction targets (5% to 25%) but we have not been consulted on any detailed treaty proposals.
Below are some of the points that have come to light recently about the Copenhagen draft treaty (phrases in brackets are yet to be finalised):
· The treaty will require developed countries, including Australia, to “compensate for damage to the LDCs’ economy and also compensate for lost opportunities, resources, lives, land and dignity, as many will become environmental refugees.”[1] (LDC refers to developing countries).
· According to the current draft, the scale of this financial support “must be [at least USD 67 billion] [in the range of USD 70-140 billion] per year.”[2]
· The treaty also states that “[Financial resources of the ‘Convention Adaptation Fund’][may][shall] include: (a) Assessed contributions [of at least 0.7% of the annual GDP of developed country Parties]…”[3] That equates to about $7 billion a year from the Australian economy.
· The funds will be managed by a board where possibly only one of the nine seats will be held by industrialised nations[4] – the nations that will be contributing the most money. In reality, Australia will have little or no say as to how our annual $7 billion contribution is spent.
· The treaty also makes provision for the board to “impose financial penalties, at a minimum of ten times the market price of carbon, for any emissions in excess of the level implied by the emissions reduction commitment.”[5] So the treaty gives the board the power to take more money from Australian taxpayers for excess emissions, which could run into the billions depending on the price of carbon.
· Fines can also be imposed on countries like Australia for “non-compliance…with their commitments to reduce emissions and provide support in the form of financial resources, technology transfer and capacity-building.”[6]
· The treaty will create a new government: “The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism.”[7] Has anyone stopped to realise how much it will cost to run and administer this new government?
This is what is being discussed by the negotiators. This is not conjecture or speculation, it’s in the very wording of the treaty.
These words will be on the negotiating table at Copenhagen and they are getting closer to becoming reality.
And yet we’ve heard virtually nothing about these details until now. Why weren’t the Australian people informed about this earlier?
This is a draft that presumably both Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong have read, so they should be aware of what they are getting Australia into. And yet they have said nothing about these requirements.
It begs the question: if Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong have failed to bring these details to light, what else might they be hiding in their climate change policy agenda?
Surely the Australian public, as the ones that will be footing the annual cost under this treaty, have the right to know about the consequences of signing at Copenhagen. Just as they need to know about the terrible cost of their proposed new CPRS tax.
It is worth noting that while legislative change related to the treaty would have to be debated in Parliament, Kevin Rudd has the executive authority to take the initial step of signing the treaty and committing Australia to the above requirements – without the consent of Parliament.
The Coalition needs to take a stand in order to protect Australia’s sovereignty and economic prosperity. Signing this treaty without full knowledge of the consequences and implications is irresponsible in the extreme.
We need to voice our strong opposition to this treaty as part of exposing Kevin Rudd as being more interested in ingratiating himself with the international community than looking after Australia’s national interest.
Regards
Peter
From: picnicbay@gmail.com [mailto:picnicbay@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Neville Bennett
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 8:01 AM
To: Lindsay, Peter (MP)
Subject: Radio interview with Alan Jones - please listen
Peter,
Is this right?
Neville
THIS IS DOWNRIGHT SCARY. LISTEN REAL CLOSE TO WHAT THIS GUY HAS TO SAY.
To all my friends and contacts.
I encourage and implore you to take just 5 or more minutes to open the link below and listen to an audio that deals with climate change and especially with the Conference at Copenhagen in early December and the frightening implications that it will have on the whole world, and especially Australia.
It could be the start of a One World Government, controlling trade, finance and even our personal freedoms.
I will say no more except you will be shocked by what you will hear.
If you value your life and your freedom, listen and pass it on to all your
contacts and especially your local politicians... do it today!
With real and urgent concern, take action now,
Please listen to this....
http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998
I have long known that global warming is not happening.
But please listen to Allen Jones interview about the Copenhagen Treaty. Its unbelievable. Dead scary.
Graham
This is quite amazing!.
The link for the interview is as follows:
http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lindsay, Peter (MP) <Peter.Lindsay.MP@aph.gov.au>
Date: 2009/11/24
Subject: RE: Radio interview with Alan Jones - please listen
To: Neville Bennett <maggie.lpo@gmail.com>
Nev
Thanks for your email.
In relation to the Copenhagen Treaty :
The Coalition has always recognised the need for active international co-operation on climate change issues because it is the only way to generate meaningful action. However the Rudd Labor Government must take the Australian people into its trust when it comes to these international negotiations.
Mr Rudd must fully inform the Australian people and the Parliament about any agreement he intends to sign up to on behalf of Australia and he must explain the financial and legal implications of this proposed treaty.
The Coalition, for its part, will scrutinise any agreements through the Parliamentary and committee processes. The existing treaty draft for the Copenhagen is expansive and complex. This simply underscores the point that Mr Rudd must be honest and up front with the Australian people about what he knows and what he wants Australia to contribute at Copenhagen.
The Coalition has offered bipartisan support for the range of CO2 reduction targets (5% to 25%) but we have not been consulted on any detailed treaty proposals.
Below are some of the points that have come to light recently about the Copenhagen draft treaty (phrases in brackets are yet to be finalised):
· The treaty will require developed countries, including Australia, to “compensate for damage to the LDCs’ economy and also compensate for lost opportunities, resources, lives, land and dignity, as many will become environmental refugees.”[1] (LDC refers to developing countries).
· According to the current draft, the scale of this financial support “must be [at least USD 67 billion] [in the range of USD 70-140 billion] per year.”[2]
· The treaty also states that “[Financial resources of the ‘Convention Adaptation Fund’][may][shall] include: (a) Assessed contributions [of at least 0.7% of the annual GDP of developed country Parties]…”[3] That equates to about $7 billion a year from the Australian economy.
· The funds will be managed by a board where possibly only one of the nine seats will be held by industrialised nations[4] – the nations that will be contributing the most money. In reality, Australia will have little or no say as to how our annual $7 billion contribution is spent.
· The treaty also makes provision for the board to “impose financial penalties, at a minimum of ten times the market price of carbon, for any emissions in excess of the level implied by the emissions reduction commitment.”[5] So the treaty gives the board the power to take more money from Australian taxpayers for excess emissions, which could run into the billions depending on the price of carbon.
· Fines can also be imposed on countries like Australia for “non-compliance…with their commitments to reduce emissions and provide support in the form of financial resources, technology transfer and capacity-building.”[6]
· The treaty will create a new government: “The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism.”[7] Has anyone stopped to realise how much it will cost to run and administer this new government?
This is what is being discussed by the negotiators. This is not conjecture or speculation, it’s in the very wording of the treaty.
These words will be on the negotiating table at Copenhagen and they are getting closer to becoming reality.
And yet we’ve heard virtually nothing about these details until now. Why weren’t the Australian people informed about this earlier?
This is a draft that presumably both Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong have read, so they should be aware of what they are getting Australia into. And yet they have said nothing about these requirements.
It begs the question: if Kevin Rudd and Penny Wong have failed to bring these details to light, what else might they be hiding in their climate change policy agenda?
Surely the Australian public, as the ones that will be footing the annual cost under this treaty, have the right to know about the consequences of signing at Copenhagen. Just as they need to know about the terrible cost of their proposed new CPRS tax.
It is worth noting that while legislative change related to the treaty would have to be debated in Parliament, Kevin Rudd has the executive authority to take the initial step of signing the treaty and committing Australia to the above requirements – without the consent of Parliament.
The Coalition needs to take a stand in order to protect Australia’s sovereignty and economic prosperity. Signing this treaty without full knowledge of the consequences and implications is irresponsible in the extreme.
We need to voice our strong opposition to this treaty as part of exposing Kevin Rudd as being more interested in ingratiating himself with the international community than looking after Australia’s national interest.
Regards
Peter
From: picnicbay@gmail.com [mailto:picnicbay@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Neville Bennett
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 8:01 AM
To: Lindsay, Peter (MP)
Subject: Radio interview with Alan Jones - please listen
Peter,
Is this right?
Neville
THIS IS DOWNRIGHT SCARY. LISTEN REAL CLOSE TO WHAT THIS GUY HAS TO SAY.
To all my friends and contacts.
I encourage and implore you to take just 5 or more minutes to open the link below and listen to an audio that deals with climate change and especially with the Conference at Copenhagen in early December and the frightening implications that it will have on the whole world, and especially Australia.
It could be the start of a One World Government, controlling trade, finance and even our personal freedoms.
I will say no more except you will be shocked by what you will hear.
If you value your life and your freedom, listen and pass it on to all your
contacts and especially your local politicians... do it today!
With real and urgent concern, take action now,
Please listen to this....
http://2gb.com.au/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=4998