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bones
13-02-2008, 07:16 PM
That we DONT HAVE a CFI/Instructor in Victoria??? :confused:

Cause i just had a phone call from a fella down there, who is desperate to start flying,learning about gyros and he cant find anyone in that state who teaches.

I HOPE I AM WRONG, otherwise we are in a bad state of affairs.:mad:

Fencing Wire
13-02-2008, 09:07 PM
Mark,
Unless something has changed in the last few minutes, it is true. Nearest one from here (Bairnsdale) is Kevin Traegar (Lameroo) or Ross Bannerman (Goulburn). I would say Kevin is at least 10 hours each way and Ross would be 8 or 9.
Cheers
Fred

disco
13-02-2008, 10:13 PM
I drove 8 hours each way a few times to learn to fly bones.

You gotta wanna do it.... and not mind driving.

bones
14-02-2008, 05:45 PM
THe point i was trying to make was there is one state in Oz there is no representation of ASRA in the formal level, the fella whom rang me was talking to Sam, and got hooked watching fly the beaches some where down there.

Fencing Wire
14-02-2008, 06:16 PM
I drove 8 hours each way a few times to learn to fly bones.

You gotta wanna do it.... and not mind driving.

G'day Disco,
There's a few considerations, safety being foremost. When you are young, you can do all sorts of silly things, and get away with them. I can recall driving to Brisbane and leaving Friday arvo, and being back for work Monday am. (that was from Melbourne).

As you get older, the resilience is not so great. With a few exceptions, most young blokes are busy raising a family and paying for houses, education, etc. By the time they can afford a flying hobby, they are more likely to be more mature. I started lessons when I was 45. I found that early on, 2 x half hour sessions in a day was sufficient, and if any more was attempted, the brain was fried.

Considering the above, the average bloke has gotta do 20 hours to solo. If he does an hour Sat & Sun (per trip), he is likely to do 160 hours driving (10 trips by 8 hours each way) to complete his 20 hours (that's if the weather is kind). The last 2 or 3 hours on the home trip each training week-end is gonna be pushing the friendship. It also means that training is more likely to be skimped on, and the student is more likely to try the "self training" routine (with the usual results). There is also the problem when it comes to solo. The solo stuff is more than likely to be attempted without the supervision of an instructor.

I know that if you wanna do it, the 8 hour drive each way shouldn't stop you. But it puts pressure on when it is least needed.

My 2 bobs worth.

Cheers

disco
14-02-2008, 06:59 PM
G'day Disco,
There's a few considerations, safety being foremost. When you are young, you can do all sorts of silly things, and get away with them. I can recall driving to Brisbane and leaving Friday arvo, and being back for work Monday am. (that was from Melbourne).

As you get older, the resilience is not so great. With a few exceptions, most young blokes are busy raising a family and paying for houses, education, etc. By the time they can afford a flying hobby, they are more likely to be more mature. I started lessons when I was 45. I found that early on, 2 x half hour sessions in a day was sufficient, and if any more was attempted, the brain was fried.

Considering the above, the average bloke has gotta do 20 hours to solo. If he does an hour Sat & Sun (per trip), he is likely to do 160 hours driving (10 trips by 8 hours each way) to complete his 20 hours (that's if the weather is kind). The last 2 or 3 hours on the home trip each training week-end is gonna be pushing the friendship. It also means that training is more likely to be skimped on, and the student is more likely to try the "self training" routine (with the usual results). There is also the problem when it comes to solo. The solo stuff is more than likely to be attempted without the supervision of an instructor.

I know that if you wanna do it, the 8 hour drive each way shouldn't stop you. But it puts pressure on when it is least needed.

My 2 bobs worth.

Cheers

Yes, I agree with everything you said. I could already fly planes and it just took a good instructor to let me have control of the gyro and fly it without taking it off me all the time. It would have been a lot harder for me if I had to do 20 hours. Say 2-4 hours a weekend, lots of trips. It would be a lot harder for someone off the street. The other point I wanted to make is if there were more instructors around, the cost of advertised training would be down I'd expect. Supply & Demand.

I am a young guy, but still have to pay a mortgage etc. don't get the idea that it's ok for me cause my olds pay for me or anything like that. houses arn't cheap these days. I've supported myself from 17 fully and partially before that, worked hard at times, slackend off at other times, and learnt heaps.

Learning to fly is a great thing. Even an achievement. It's worth whatever lessons cost & time on the road. It MUST be done safely.

As long as it's not going to make your life suffer any other ways, do it.